News about connectors on DEC equipment A lot of discussion of MMJ connectors, plus occasional notes on other things... *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Path: cs.utk.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu !gemsw3s1.med.ge.com!news.ge.com!bumppc!peters From: peters@alva (Marty Peters) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cabling,comp.terminals Subject: Re: MMJ->db25 doing RS-422 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 00:18:51 Organization: General Electric Company Lines: 22 Message-ID: <951217001851@bumppc> References: <4a8dj5$shs@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 3.3.16.93 In article <4a8dj5$shs@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Voyager) writes: > > Can anyone point me to a source that will sell DEC MMJ-db25 cables wired >for rs-422 operation. Actually It is similar to RS-232, just that the >grounds for RX and TX are shorted to data ground on the db25 side. > >This is for a vt-420 terminal. > >Thank you. Not sure exactly what you're asking here, but I'll take a stab at it. DEC sells a few different types of DB25-to-MMJ adapters. They're molded, so the internal wiring configuration is fixed. A company called Nevada Western sells similar adapters that can be wired to your specs. I suspect Black Box also has these. Other office computer-type suppliers such as Inmac and Global have these things in their catalogs. They come as kits and you wire them up any way you want. If you're looking for custom-wired cables, Black Box will build what you want. By the way, the VT420 is EIA-423 (not RS-232). Marty (peters@nbc.com) *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Vendor claiming to sell MMJ connectors, made from kits, cheaper than from Digital Equipment Corp. General Medical Corp 8741 Landmark Road Richmond, VA 23226 USA Fax: +1 804/264-7611 Voice: +1 804/264-7488 ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() In the VT525, DEC assigns the 2nd and 3rd serial-port pins like this (a 6-pin MMJ EIA-423 port): 1. DTR 2. TXD L 3. GND 4. COM 5. RXD L 6. DSR Comm3 is intended to drive a serially interfaced printer. source: "VT525 Color Video Terminal Installation and Operating Information" EK-VT525-IN.A01 "VT525 Color Video Terminal Programmer Information" EK-VT525-RM To order these books, call 1-800/344-4825 in the USA. ...RSS *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* ...from the "Digital Unix FAQ" H4. What are the pinouts of the MMJ jacks? This describes the 6-pin modified modular jack (MMJ) used for serial ports on various Digital hardware. Digital carries four DB-to-MMJ adaptors. They are internally wired as follows Rdy Out TX+ TX- RX- RX+ Rdy In Adaptor Gender 1 2 3 4 5 6 Use with: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- H8575-A F 20 2 7 7 3 6&8 VTxxx terminal H8571-C M 6 3 7 7 2 20 Digital printer H8571-D M 6 3 7 7 2 20 Modem H8571-E M 20 2 7 7 3 6&8 Female terminal or LaserWriter -------------------------------------------------------------------------- RS-232 using DB-25 connectors: DTE DCE Terminal Modem or computer Pin Number Signal Name 2 TD Transmit Data --> 3 RD Receive Data <-- 7 GND Ground --- 6 DSR Data Set Ready <-- 8 DCD Data Carrier Detect <-- 20 DTR Data Terminal Ready --> *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: utkcs2!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!uwm.edu!www.nntp.primenet.com !nntp.primenet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net !usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-11.sprintlink.net !ralph.vnet.net!news Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:11:19 GMT Message-ID: <329107ef.186400569@ralph.vnet.net> From: vastator@vnet.net (Charles Harris) Subject: VT420/320 Pinouts Here Ok Folks I realize that you can get a cable that goes from a DEC cable to serial but it costs $50? Anyways here is a bit of info for you. I bought a DEC straight-through cable from mu local cable company and a Male DEC plug that you can configure yourself. Here is the pinout for that plug so that you can use a modem/serial Wire# Signal Color Destination/25pin plug 1 DTR White 20 2 TXD Black 2 3 GND Red 7 4 Com Green 8 5 RXD Yellow 3 6 DSR Blue 6 Share and enjoy! *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* [The dual-session VT330 terminal, on the other hand, has one DB-25 connector and two MMJ connectors. ...RSS] *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.terminals Message-ID: <6dpurq$qku$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <34FDD8DB.7137D3B2@kpcsys.com> Organization: TRIUMF, Canada's National Meson Facility Date: 6 Mar 1998 22:54:50 GMT From: Tim Shoppa Subject: Re: VT320 as console on IBM RS/6000 In article , G. Vincent Castellano wrote: > >Randy Klindt wrote in comp.terminals: >RK> >RK> Does anyone have any ideas on how to make a DEC VT320 work as a console >RK> on an IBM RS/6000? It has a telephone wire type plug that has an offset >RK> tab. > >The tough part is going from that RJ-mutant (telephone-wire-type) jack >to RS-232. You'll need to contact someone who sells DEC parts, I >think Not anymore - my local electronics store carries the MMJ plugs, and all the major mail-order places do, too. Digi-Key, for example, sells the AMP 5-5552327-2 "offset latch plug" for $0.69, part number A9057-ND. I just make a MMJ-to-RJ11 cord and plug it into a commonly available RJ11-to-DB25 adapter. -- Tim. *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec Path: cs.utk.edu!martha.utcc.utk.edu!darwin.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net !torn!nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca!herman.cs.uoguelph.ca!rmacklem Date: 30 May 1994 15:07:53 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <2scvg9$4uo@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: From: rmacklem@uoguelph.ca (Rick Macklem) Subject: Re: Terminal as VAXstation 2000 console questions [...how to use a serial terminal as console for a VAX 2000 workstation] Sorry, I don't know what the DEC part # is, but here are the pinouts for the two connectors so you can roll your own. (I think the console is normally the 9-pin printer port and requires pins 8-9 jumpered on the connector to indicate it is a console.) DB9 printer port: 2 - xmit data 3 - rcv data 7 - grnd plus jumper (short) 8 to 9 DB15 mouse/keyboard: 5 - mouse rcv data 6 - ground 13 - mouse xmit data 14 - kbd rcv data 15 - kbd xmit data (the rest are video signals) The mouse and keyboard are both data lead only serial ports Good luck with it, Rick *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: utkcs2!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!news.imsa.edu!chi-news.cic.net !wolverine.hq.cic.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!newsrelay.netins.net !news.ececs.uc.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!feed1.news.erols.com !howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.infi.net !newsfeeder.servtech.com!post.servtech.com!not-for-mail Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:42:38 GMT Organization: ServiceTech, Inc. Message-ID: <33134adc.22539321@news.servtech.com> References: <5er164$hqv58@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> From: cfandt@servtech.com (Christian Fandt) Subject: Re: Pinouts for a VT-320 with a RJ-45 serial port? On 24 Feb 1997 03:16:20 GMT, CC823516-A@ wrote: > >I found a DEC vt-320 and would like to connect it to my pc with a rs-232 port. >I've been succesful with others that came with a rs-232 port, however >these have a rj-45 instead. > >Anyone know if there is pinout available on the net? I'm reading this directly from my DEC VT-330/VT-340 manual in Appendix E. Info should be quite the same for your '320: Pin 1 = Data Terminal Ready (DTR) Pin 2 = Transmitted Data (TXD) Pin 3 = Transmitted Data Return (you shouldn't connect this pin) Pin 4 = Received Data Return (same) Pin 5 = Received Data (RXD) Pin 6 = Data Set Ready (DSR) [Archiver's Note: Strictly speaking, these serial ports are RS-422/RS-423 connections, not RS-232-C, although they can be made to interoperate. The official Digital Equipment Corporation name for the 6-pin telephone- type connector is "DEC-423". ...RSS ] DEC sells cables and adaptors to fit between DEC-423 and RS-232 connectors. Use the H8571-C adaptor between a '423 cable coming from your VT-320 to go to a female 25-pin RS-232 cable which connects to your host. A 3-meter '423 cable part number is BC16E-10. I bought those parts from DEC to connect a '340 to a PC at work. ======================================================= Christian Fandt Phone: +716-488-1722 -Home 111 Harding Avenue +716-661-1832 -Office Jamestown New York Fax: +716-661-1888 -Office fax 14701-4746 USA email: cfandt@servtech.com ======================================================= *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Newsgroups: comp.terminals Path: utkcs2!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!news.he.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.visi.net !news.infi.net!news.infi.net!parse Date: 7 May 1997 23:38:07 GMT Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pm1-43.roanoke.infi.net Reply-To: parsley@roanoke.infi.net From: parse@charmed.quark.net (David L. Parsley) Subject: vt420 & Linux - knowledge swap I just recently got a sweet deal on a couple of vt420-a2's (greyscale text, basically), and connected it to my Linux box. Here's what I did to get it to work: I bought a 6-conductor telephone cable from Radio Shack. On one end, I removed the clip, and sanded it until flat enough to fit in the keyed entry labeled '1' on the back. (It stays in quite well--just don't pull on it!) Looking at the back of the terminal, pin 1 is on the left, pin 6 on the right. To plug into a 25-pin serial port, I made the following pin connections: VT420 RJ 25-pin serial (DB-25) 1 DTR 6 & 8 DSR & RSD 2 TXD+ 3 RXD 3 TXD- 7 signal GND 4 RXD- 7 signal GND 5 RXD+ 2 TXD 6 DSR 20 DTR then, in /etc/inittab I set 19200 baud. In terminal setup (F3), I set 19200, 8,N,1. NOW --- that's some pretty basic stuff, but it might save somebody some time. I screwed it up the first time, since I translated 6-pin to 25-pin, but forgot to do the null modem thing. Still, I sometimes get backwards question marks on screen, which indicate either a strange character, or data being spewed too fast. stty seems to be configured to listen to XON/XOFF flow control, but I still get the strange stuff, such as when I telnet to a remote site. Can anyone tell me about foolproof (and I do mean 'fool'-proof ;-) software configuration of my Linux box? Ideally, I'd like to run the terminal at a full 38400, but at THAT speed, I get TONS of backwards question marks. If I've left out any details, you can probably assume I don't know that those details exist. :-) David L. Parsley *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 Path: utkcs2!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!utk.edu!newsfeed.usit.net !news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.infi.net !news.infi.net!news.visi.net!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com !europa.clark.net!howland.erols.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.OZ.AU !metro!metro!decus!stewart_andy Message-ID: <1997Jun16.190417.17192@decus> References: <33a33b0f.9344706@news.ais.net> <5nmcgk$1v4$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Organization: DECUS Australia Date: 16 Jun 97 19:04:17 AEST From: stewart_andy@decus.org.au (Andy Stewart) Subject: Re: odd connectors? dec422? (MMJs) In article <5nmcgk$1v4$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, shoppa@alph02.triumf.ca (Tim Shoppa) writes: > > In article <33a33b0f.9344706@news.ais.net>, wrote: >> >> [Connector identified as DEC MMJ, runs RS-232 compatible RS-423 signalling] >> >> [Details of MMJ-DB25/DB9 adapters from DEC] (some of them have BRILLIANT noise filters built in) Note that the MMJ-MMJ cables normally get crossed over: 1-6, 2-5, 3-4. If no one closer can help you get cheap adapters, drop me an Email. I've got a box of compatible MMJ-DB25 Female adapters, a roll of cable, clips and crimpers. -- Andy Stewart, Mad Hobbyist and DECaholic. 8^)} stewart_andy@decus.org.au - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "With gateways, you get the Union of the liabilities and the Intersection of the capabilities of the two architectures being connected." The Network Architect, "DECnet Phase V", James Martin and Joe Leben - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt Path: cs.utk.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde !howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!hudson.lm.com !godot.cc.duq.edu!newsfeed.pitt.edu!filip Message-ID: <3rd4n4$erl@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <3qt84a$4i0@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu> Date: 10 Jun 1995 22:01:08 GMT Organization: Medical Informatics, Pittsburgh PA, USA From: filip@alpha.smi.med.pitt.edu (Filip M Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: Re: VT320 woes In Article <3qt84a$4i0@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu> thus spoke Vinodh Das : > > I have a nice DEC VT320 I'd like to connect to a Zoom V.32bis modem. > Unfortunately, I have to make my own cable connecting DEC's odd modular > connector to the Zoom's RS232 connection. I know modular has the > following pins : > >1. DTR >2. TXD+ (like RS232 TXD) >3. TXD- (like RS232 GND for TXD) >4. RXD- (like RS232 GND for RXD) >5. RXD+ (like RS232 RXD) >6. DSR > > I need to know which wire to solder to which pin on the >RS232 connectors. Greetings. Here's a little something from my next sync of the FAQ: ----------------chop-with-axe----------------chop-with-axe--------------------- RJ45 (10 PIN) TO RJ45 (6 PIN) 1. RI ------------ NC 2. DSR ------------ NC 3. RTS ------------ 1 RTS 4. GND ------------ 2 GND 5. TxD ------------ 3 TxD 6. RxD ------------ 4 RxD 7. SignalGnd ------ 5 SG 8. CTS ------------ 6 CTS 9. DTR ------------ NC 10. DCD ------------ NC DB-25 (25 PIN) TO RJ45 (10 PIN) SHELL (chassis gnd) ----------- 4 (chassis gnd) 2 (TxD) ----------------------- 5 (TxD) 3 (RxD) ----------------------- 6 (RxD) 4 (RTS) ----------------------- 3 (RTS) 5 (CTS) ----------------------- 8 (CTS) 6 (DSR) ----------------------- 2 (DSR) 7 (SG) ----------------------- 7 (SG) 8 (DCD) ---------------------- 10 (DCD) 20 (DTR) ---------------------- 9 (DTR) 22 (RI) ----------------------- 1 (RI) SERIAL PORT Serial Port DB9-Male DB25-Male 9-pin 25-pin assignment 1 8 DCD (Data Carrier Detect) 2 3 RX (Receive Data) 3 2 TX (Transmit Data) 4 20 DTR (Data Terminal Ready) 5 7 GND (Signal Ground) 6 6 DSR (Data Set Ready) 7 4 RTS (Request To Send) 8 5 CTS (Clear To Send) 9 22 RI (Ring Indicator) ----------------chop-with-axe----------------chop-with-axe--------------------- Will eventually be at URL: http://www.paranoia.com/~filipg/HTML/FAQ/BODY/F_Pinouts.html but NOT yet. :-) Take care. -- +-->Filip "I'll buy a vowel" Gieszczykiewicz | E-mail: filipg@paranoia.com | http://www.paranoia.com/~filipg | Sci.Electronics, RC, Misc FAQs + MORE! | Enjoy your job, work within the law, make lots of money : Choose any two. | Making money with CS and spending it on robotics, life & friends. !NOT(!PC) *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec Organization: Engineering Computer Services Message-ID: <5s7rp3$6q7$1@risky.ecs.umass.edu> References: <870734443.44@dejanews.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:33:41 GMT From: Joe Heimann Subject: RE: Non-DEC uses for VT320 terminals? gbarrett@jerrynet.com writes: > > Does anyone know of any non-DEC uses for VT320 terminals? I have a > storage room littered with model VT320-C2 terminals that I can't quite > let go of because they still power up. Can they be hooked up to Unix boxes? Yes, termcap and terminfo entries are available in many Unix operating systems, or can be found. The VT320s can also be set to VT100 or VT200 mode. > Is there some way to use them for terminal access to network > equipment? Maybe I can patch together some sort of RS-232 cable? DEC shipped VT320s with a standard MMJ to RS232 adapter. If I am looking at the right one, the part number is H8571-K. There are also other MMJ adapters for other uses, such as MMJ to DB9. They should be fairly easy to find from DEC or other suppliers, or someone at your organization may have kept some around in a drawer or storage closet. Joe Heimann Engineering Computer Services College of Engineering University of Massachusetts /Amherst *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms Path: utkcs2!emory!samsung!uunet!dvss01.mdcbbs.com!a088568 Message-ID: <1990Aug3.110040.1@dvss01.mdcbbs.com> References: <627@innovative.com> Organization: McDonnell Douglas M&E, Cypress CA Date: 3 Aug 1990 11:00:40 GMT From: "Robert E. Morris" Subject: Re: Pinouts for connection of terminal to DEC/EIA-423 In article <627@innovative.com>, jw@innovative.com (Jay Whitney) writes: > Dear net, > > I need to know the pinouts for the DEC/EIA-423 serial ports > found on the back of the 3100s. Also -- would anyone have any idea > how to build an adapter like the H8571-A to connect an RS232 terminal > to a DECconnect DEC/EIA-423 VAXstation? (To the printer port, if that > makes a difference). Moreover, has anyone done it? > > Thanks, > Jay Whitney > -- > Internet: jw@innovative.com Innovative Software > UUCP: {uunet,rutgers}!innsoft!jw Seattle, Washington If you have the manual installing and using the VT330/340 it is in appendix E: page 222. pin signal Mnemonic 1 data terminal ready dtr 2 tramsmitted data txd 3 transmitted data return - 4 received data return - 5 received data rxd 6 data set ready - I have only used this from VT330 VT340. I hooked up a modem to the MMJ port by hooking a MMJ RJ11 cable to a RJ11 to RS232. the RJ11 adaptor is wired like this --- ___| |___ p p p p p p i i i i i i n n n n n n 2 2 7 7 3 6 0 I hope this helps. -- Robert E. Morris A088568@dvss.mdcbbs.com *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11,alt.sys.pdp11 Path: utkcs2!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!news.er.usgs.gov!mcmcnews.er.usgs.gov !news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net !newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca !unixg.ubc.ca!alph02.triumf.ca!shoppa Message-ID: <5ok1oq$3dn$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5ojecc$2q2@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Organization: TRIUMF, Canada's National Meson Facility Date: 22 Jun 1997 20:26:02 GMT From: shoppa@alph02.triumf.ca (Tim Shoppa) Subject: Re: Basic 11/34 questions In article <5ojecc$2q2@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Philip Blundell wrote: > > I've just become the proud owner of a PDP-11/34. I've never used a >PDP-11 before, and I have some fairly elementary questions about it. > >Firstly, it's equipped with a calculator-style octal front panel. >Although I think I've just about figured out how to use it, I'd >appreciate some information about what all the LEDs and buttons mean - >also what, exactly, the three positions on the power switch ("DC OFF", >"DC ON" and "STAND BY") signify. Get me your postal address and a Xerox of the 11/34a section of the Unibus Processors Handbook will be on its way. >Secondly, it has an "async line" card (M7800) fitted. This has an IDC >connector; can anybody give me a description of the pinout? Technically, it's a Berg connector (though an IDC will plug in.) Cable pinouts (blank means "no connection"): Numbers are DB25 pin numbers (for the BC05C) or Mate-N-Lok pin numbers (for 7008360): Berg pin Signal BC05C 7008360 A Ground 1 Prot.Ground (blue/wht) - ground B Ground 7 Signal Ground (brwn/wht) C 25 Force Busy (red/org) D 13 Secondary CTS (org/red) E TTL serial in - interlock in - interlock in F EIA serial out 2 Transmit Data (wht/blue) H 20mA interlock - interlock out J EIA serial in 3 Receive Data (org/wht) K +20mA serial in 7 + Rec.Data (green) L 24 External clk (brwn/red) M EIA interlock - interlock out N 15 serial clk xmit (grey/grn) P 19 Secondary RTS (lbue/blk) R 17 serial clk recv (grey) S -20mA serial in 3 - Rec.Data (red) T 5 Clear To Send (grn/wht) U V EIA RTS 4 Request To Send (wht/org) W 10 -ve power (wht/grey) X 22 Ring (blk/org) Y 9 +ve power (grey/wht) Z 6 Data Set Ready (wht/grn) AA +20mA serial out 5 + Trans.Data (white) BB 8 Data Carrier Detect (wht/brwn) CC DD EIA DTR 20 Data Terminal Ready (blk/blu) EE -20mA RDR Run 3 - Reader Run (black) FF 11 202 Secondary TD (blu/red) HH JJ 12 202 Secondary RD (red/blu) KK -20mA serial out 2 - Trans.Data (black) LL 14 EIA Secondary TD (grey/red) MM 21 Signal Quality (org/blk) NN 16 EIA Secondary RD (red/brwn) PP +20mA RDR Run 6 + Reader Run (black) RR 23 Signal Rate (grn/blk) SS TT +5V DC UU ground VV ground >Finally, it also has four cards M7254, M7255, M7256 and M7257. These >are apparently something to do with an RK05. What precisely do they >do? They do the DMA and drive interface to a RK05. One slot in the backplane is where the Unibus-type cable running to the RK05 drive plugs into. Tim. (shoppa@triumf.ca) *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Newsgroups: comp.terminals, comp.sys.dec Message-ID: References: <35A9BD61.6DED1FFE@theatreorgans.com> Date: 15 Jul 98 10:58:38 GMT From: Allan Hawdon Subject: Re: Questions about DEC vt320 terminals In article <35A9BD61.6DED1FFE@theatreorgans.com>, Kent Rankin writes: > > I bought a lot(group) of vt-320's and lk-201's the other day at a > university auction for $20. Six of them mind you. I am rather happy > with the deal. However, when trying to use them, I have a bit of a > problem. > Here it goes: > > The terminal doesn't send anything, nor receive anything. > > How unusual. Bet you guys never hear questions about problems like > that. > Here is the situation: > I have both a Sun 3/50 and a Pentium-based Linux box. I have a > cable from the serial port on the terminal to an adapter from the MMJ > connector to a male DB25 port. There are two serial connectors on the back of a VT320: a DB-25 and an MMJ, only one of which can be enabled at a time. It sounds as if you're trying to use the MMJ. By default the DB-25 connecter is enabled, so all you should need to do is connect your cables directly to the DB-25 and dispense with the MMJ<->DB-25 adapters (don't throw them away, they could come in handy one day). To check and or change the setting, go into the "comm" menu in Set-Up and check the little window down on the left - it should say one of the following: RS-232, Data Leads Only RS-232, Modem Control DEC-423, Data Leads Only DEC-423, Modem Control The RS-232 settings use the DB-25 connector on the back and the DEC-423 settings use the MMJ. > > Is this adapter for the printer connection? It is the only one that > I have, so I need to know if I need to go get another one somewhere. > And where to get some of them for the other 5 terminals. The other MMJ (the one furthest away from the DB-25) is the printer socket. Hope this is some help Allan *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Message-ID: <73pmn3$7p3@nenevr.demon.co.uk> References: <73nf3k$6lr@nenevr.demon.co.uk> <365fcac3.3383444@news.ipswich.gil. com.au> Date: 28 Nov 1998 20:33:39 -0000 From: Simon Coombs Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec, comp.terminals Subject: Re: Small connectors on VT220 terminals Followup-To: comp.sys.dec,comp.terminals Peter Quodling (quodling@gil.com.au) wrote: > simon@nenevr.demon.co.uk.NOJUNK (Simon Coombs) wrote: > >Does anyone have any idea what that small, 8-pin connector is over the > >video-out connector on a VT220? It hides under that little panel, and I > >had been wondering what it's supposed to do for *years*... alternatively, > >I suppose they could be jumpers, but I dunno what for! > Unless my memory fails me, this is a 20mA "current loop" connection. > This was an older connection method, that pre-dated RS232. There *is* a 20mA current loop connector back there, but it's this great big white plastic job down at the bottom. The bit I'm curious about is under a small plastic panel that can be pried off, in the top left-hand corner. I'm beginning to wonder if it's there to control what comes out of the 'video out' connector... I've yet to find something that a VT220 will connect to succesfully without rolling, wrapping the picture round, and being generally unuseable. [1] Simon Coombs. [1] Apart from hypnotising annoying relatives. That could be fun. Anyone know how to change the 'VT220 OK' message to 'LEAVE US ALONE'? ;) *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* Message-ID: Organization: neuron, technology consultants Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:27:19 -0500 From: Richard Tomkins Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec, comp.terminals Subject: Re: Small connectors on VT220 terminals The connector under the panel was going to be for enhanced features. Alas, a great idea that went no-where. rtt -- This mind left BLANK intentionally. *---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---* ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Message-ID: <36BB7E58.8881972B@GSC.GTE.Com> References: <799mud$mcs$1@reef.news.technocom.net> Newsgroups: comp.terminals Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:27:20 GMT To: 055722l From: Scott G. Hall Subject: Re: Pinouts 055722l wrote: > Looking for the pinouts for a DB-25 - RJ-45 to connect to a async terminal. The RJ-45 pinouts are different for different serial port manaufacturers. For instance, DigiBoard invented the RJ-45E, which is a 10-conductor version that has all of a single port's RS-232C signals. Digital's RJ-45s are slightly different. And Boca Board's pinnout is slightly different yet. Not to mention AT&T's Dataport terminal server. The DB-25 connector has its original pinout defined in an EIA standard, and really defines two serial ports in the same connector, and both ports can be asynchronous or synchronous. The connector can be on a terminal or printer (data terminal equipment or DTE), or communications device (data communications equipment, or DCE). In RS-232C asynchronous DTE mode, the most common on a terminal, you'll find this: 1 Chassis Ground (connector hood) common 2 TX (transmit) output 3 RX (receive) input 4 RTS (ready to send) output 5 CTS (clear to send) input 6 DSR (data set ready) input 7 SGnd (signal ground) common 8 CD (carrier detect) input 20 DTR (data terminal ready) output 22 RI (ring indicate) input -- Scott G. Hall GTE Government Systems North Carolina Systems Center email: Scott.Hall@GSC.GTE.Com ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Message-ID: <36E49DC1.4A0FAEA2@ocean.fsu.edu> References: <36D7118F.E105A3D8@uni-hamburg.de> <7b7d71$ogs@boole.maths.tcd.ie> <36E0B731.4F711EF6@ocean.fsu.edu> <7btjhc$6dl@nenevr.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.77.230.244 Date: 9 Mar 1999 04:16:33 GMT From: J Austin David Newsgroups: comp.terminals Subject: Re: vt320 & MMJ Connector Simon Coombs wrote: > > J Austin David (austin@ocean.fsu.edu) wrote: > > Juan Flynn NN wrote: > > > > > > Jochen =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=F6nfelder?= writes: > > > > > > >I just got a transtec vt320 (I suppose its a relabeled dec) and have no > > > >idea how to connect the 6-pin mmj-port with ttyS1. I tried to use the > > > >serial term-->printer cable but failed.... > > > > > > Try using the 25 pin port; that's the RS232 port. That one has worked > > > for me on Linux & Solaris for my dumb terminals. > > Snag; the International model of VT320 has a DB25 connector - but if I > remember correctly, the U.S. specific model has no such connector; just > the two MMJ's. > > > I too have recently come across a (free) vt320- but I don't have a > > DB9/25-type RS232 port; only the two little RJ(?) ports, like phone > > lines. > > > I'd like to run it as a console to an old SGI box so I'll have to do > > some soldering anyway. Is there some combination of pinouts I can use > > (or even a little bit of hardware/logic) to get a standard 232 COMM > > signal? I popped it open, but there was no obvious place to plug a > > DB25 (there's a hole there, and it's got a little plug in it, but no > > serial-type guts) > > Time for an ASCIII-art moment... > > _______________ 1 - DTR > | | 2 - TXD+ > | 1 2 3 4 5 6 | 3 - TXD- > |________ _| 4 - RXD- > |___| 5 - RXD+ > 6 - DSR > > If you're having trouble getting a modular connector with the tab offset > to one side, you could always get one of the more common (RJ-45 or FCC68?) > connectors with the tab in the middle, and file it off... messy and a > little unstable, I know, but workable. Excellent drawing, thanks! I was also emailed this pointer: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~shuford/terminal_index.html I'm currently in contact with a representative of CWIX to make me the thingy I need. Thanks, all! ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Message-ID: References: <37ab3933.775671807@news.supernews.com> <37ADF0F0.31E4445F@informatik.uni-kl.de> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:33:35 -0500 Newsgroups: comp.os.vms From: John E. Malmberg Subject: Re: need help with serial connection, etc Juergen Kortgen wrote in message <37ADF0F0.31E4445F@informatik.uni-kl.de>... >Hello, > >if you have time to make your own cable, check out this: >I recently checked the connections from serial line out pins to MMJ: > >PC MMJ with MMJ-build up: >1 1 +--+ >2 2 | | >3 5 +-+ +--------+ >4 6 | 1 2 3 4 5 6 | >5 3 +-------------+ >6 >7 >8 >9 > The above is missing the required "Receive Ground" signal connection. The MMJ connector has two independent signal grounds. When adapting it to an RS-232 connector of any variety, they must be tied together. In this case, you must connect both pins 3 and 4 from the MMJ to pin 5 of the PC-AT 9 pin connector. See Topic MISC1 in the OpenVMS FAQ at http://www.openvms.digital.com and other places. -John Who is tired of troubleshooting intermittent serial communications problems because of this common wiring error. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Message-ID: <7vusvj$5t3$1@autumn.news.rcn.net> References: <387323D1.BB55C63A@us.origin-it.com> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:29:33 -0500 Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro From: Mike Duffy Subject: Re: MMJ Console Cable Andrew wrote in message <387323D1.BB55C63A@us.origin-it.com>... >Does anyone know where I can get an MMJ console cable for my DECNIS >500? Also, anyone know where I can get OS upgrades for my DECNIS 500's? Well, I suppose that the entity which used to be DECdirect (1-800-DIGITAL (344-4825)) might have them. Otherwise, you can get an insert for a standard crimping tool and make them yourself. AMP used to make MMJ connectors, and might still. You can use ordinary six-conductor wire. MMJ cables need to have a flip (pin 1 at one end must become pin 6 at the other, 2 becomes 5, 3 becomes 4). I used to make my own at my old site - we needed thousands, and it was *much* cheaper then buying them pre-made. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////